Quick Update April 2021

I thought I’d take a leaf out of Ned’s recent ‘snippets’ post and write my own update of things that I’ve heard happening in the domain name industry recently.

Domain Name Thieves out in force.

I’ve heard of many people getting complaints against their domains in recent months leading up to the April 12th policy change we just went through. One such complaint I’m currently dealing with is against the domain name Affirm.com.au that I represent as a broker. The domain name has been owned since 2006 and the “fresh” trademark holders have decided to file an auDRP out against this domain name. I’m going to be defending it for my client. I’ll be writing a full expose about this in the coming days.

Meanwhile, have any of your domain names had complaints made against them recently?

Domain Sales still cranking.

In the past two weeks DBR has been involved in the sale/acquisition of the following domain names;

  • PieSociety.com.au
  • Barrack.com.au
  • Scape.com.au
  • Lever.com.au
  • Seaweed.com.au
  • Mailers.com.au

Four out of six of these were in the five-figures. Three of them were over $20,000.

Have you had any sales you’d care to report?

Drop.com.au launch new “transparent” Drop Catching Platform update

What are your thoughts on the new Drop.com.au “transparent bids” platform?

I’ll have my say below, once a couple of people have had theirs…

16 thoughts on “Quick Update April 2021

  • April 22, 2021 at 6:22 am
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    Comments on the service offered by Drop

    Back in the day before registrars worked out that they could make a nice profit by selling access to dropping domains and making people pay a premium, anyone could wait until a domain dropped and register it at base rates. It was a first in best dressed scenario.

    AuDa provided an update on when a domain was pending delete and supplied an almost exact time .. People then used their own registrar to register the domain if they were the first. It did not have to be the registrar that held the domain for the entity that failed to renew the domain.

    That system had its faults but it was fair.

    Fast forward to 2021 and the situation is that Drop has imposed itself on that domain recycling system by getting in the way and making people pay them to secure the better dropping domains.

    Rather than have more businesses like Drop, perhaps the way forward should be that registrars cannot access dropped domains except for registering them for legitimate non related third party buyers seeking a domain in the normal course of business, with no priority access to dropping domains and without being able to use more than one connection to secure a domain so as not to swamp Joe Blow on his PC at home seeking to secure a domain.

    Drop should not make people pay what Drop wants them to pay. The price should be an auction where increments are determined by the buyers. Even $1 increases if that is what they want.

    A comparison is GraysOnline which sells all sorts of things. Cars have $100 increases regardless of the value. A wrecking candidate will go up in price $100 at a time but a Mercedes GL with all the accessories going for $150,000.00 will also only go up in $100 increments unless a keen buyer raises the stakes by using their free will to increase the bid significantly more.

    I think bottle of wine go up $9 at a time.

    Drop makes buyers increase the bid significantly more. That is the difference. Drop is not a true free and transparent marketplace.

    Rather than more like Drop, perhaps AuDa should take control and prohibit registrars from getting in the way of a free market and let the public watch the drops and take their chances.

    If they lose, they can go to the aftermarket or brokers and try their luck there.

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  • April 22, 2021 at 6:47 am
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    You should try publish the 3 that were over $20,000. It actually helps end user purchasers to publish names acquired as it sets the bar higher for enquirers and they often get backlinks out of it.

    It’s hard getting domainers to publish sales. Many still live in the hope of being able to reinvest in more names at lower prices. These days are dwindling.

    Perhaps they need to be incentivised?

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    • April 22, 2021 at 8:52 am
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      Hi Chris, I get you, but unfortunately all of these buyers and sellers didn’t want their exact pricing revealed. You know I love to reveal pricing whenever I can! This was the best I could do.

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  • April 22, 2021 at 7:45 am
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    Sounds like a RDNH finding in the making on affirm.com.au. Not sure how anyone in their right mind could think they would be successful?

    Drop platform is better, but buyers are at the mercy of a sole drop catcher and their greedy increments. I would welcome a competitor that offers more flexibility / more transparency.

    Jeff

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  • April 22, 2021 at 8:54 am
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    I agree that the Drop platform is better, and also agree that the increments are still too dramatic. I like how there’s extended time if anyone bids in the last 5 minutes. The increments though….

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  • April 22, 2021 at 10:41 am
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    LOL Domainer just had a DDOS attack from some amateur. We were down for about 20 minutes.

    domainer affirm inc rdnh adnan meher dla piper

    All sorted now.

    Seems like today’s article struck a nerve with someone?

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  • April 22, 2021 at 10:45 am
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    Affirm.com.au RDNH currently under attack with an auDRP – full article coming soon!

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    • April 24, 2021 at 12:21 am
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      Well done Rob, lawyers representing vexatious complainants need to be outed just as much as the complainants themselves. It says a lot about a lawyer / firm when they decide to back dubious and vexatious complaints.

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  • April 22, 2021 at 2:39 pm
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    I think it would be a nice/fair idea if the Drop auction included a user name/ID to update with every highest bid and wining bid.

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  • April 22, 2021 at 11:15 pm
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    Nice sales Rob.

    Dropcatchers – watch this space.

  • April 23, 2021 at 6:41 am
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    Complaints – an auDRP on affirm.com.au would appear to be a classic “Plan B” attempt to obtain the name. Offer a certain figure first; when rebuffed file a dispute. Many UDRP panelists have been scathing of this tactic in the past, and I have no doubt this will happen again. After all, you are batting 100% Robert! 🙂

    I had an anonymous complaint on WDH.com.au this week. The links on my parking page needed updating which I did. From complaint receipt to fix to ok by auDA was a matter of hours. Excellent process. But in all seriousness, until we can stop these anonymous type of complaints, the system is going to get bogged down. Charging a token fee for a complaint procedure seems only fair and logical; or alternatively, making the complaint non-anonymous. If you have a legitimate complaint, put your name to it!

    Sales – great results!

    New Drop Platform – not that I am bidding any more, but I think it is a great improvement on what it was. Would still like to see more transparency on Bidder ID’s; more bidding levels and/or a proxy bid system in order to have a true auction.

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    • April 23, 2021 at 11:46 am
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      Another snippet I’ll give on one of the sales from the above domains…

      This buyer played coy since February over one of the domains above… He agreed to buy the domain (five-figures) so I sent him an invoice… then, nothing…. uncontactable…

      Next month, he reaches back out, saying it was too expensive… I told him that was the price… he went missing again…

      A few weeks later, he told me to send him the invoice again… I sent it… then… crickets…

      A month later he says it’s too expensive. He told me to reduce the price.

      I told him the market had moved and it’s $5k move expensive now.

      He panicked.

      He agreed to pay the initial price.

      I didn’t let him get away with it.

      I made him pay a little extra than the original if he agreed to pay within 48 hours, for the THIRD attempt at payment.

      I sent him the invoice for the third time.

      He paid within 5 minutes.

      He paid MORE than if he had paid the original invoice.

      This is how the domain industry works.

      We ain’t got no time for tyre-kickers.

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      • April 30, 2021 at 6:34 am
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        Nice one, I would’ve stuck to the $5k prevarication premium myself but yes its good you made him pay up extra. You’re right though, the market really does move that fast.

  • April 23, 2021 at 11:38 am
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    Today the domain “DomainCatch.com.au” went for $10,000!

    It looks like Domain Central may have accidentally let this one go?

    The new owners are “Drop.com.au Pty Ltd”

    Wow! The drop catching business must be very lucrative indeed, to pay $10k for a domain they’re not even going to use. It’s obviously just for brand protection.

    Nice pickup though Anthony!

    • April 23, 2021 at 3:06 pm
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      Did they really pay $10,000 for the domain name? They could put a bid of $100,000 for a domain name if they wanted, but do they really have to pay themselves that amount… we will never know.

  • April 23, 2021 at 12:21 pm
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    We are very much seeing an upturn in complaints and the complainants are educated enough to hit multiple domains for the same Registrant. But pleasingly we are also seeing an upturn in people wanting to comply with the new rules.

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