Who are SEO WEB RECOVERY and why are they suddenly dropping their domain names?

In our previous article, we stated we had filed various official formal complaints against Drop.com.au(.) You can read all about that here.

Since our formal complaints, various domain investors have contacted us stating a company called SEO WEB RECOVERY is suddenly deleting many of their domain names.

But first, let’s talk about how this very new company came into possession of loads of premium domain names.

Guzzini Pty Ltd is a company of which the directors and shareholders appear to be relatives of Mr Warmuz, the owner of Australia’s one and only daily domain name drop catching platform, Drop.com.au and also Trellian.

Drop.com.au is currently an auDA-accredited Registrar, and they’re not supposed to be buying domain names for themselves or their relatives.

Many domain investors have pointed out to Domainer over the past few years that ‘Guzzini’ has been acquiring many domain names for themselves.

Well, in a new twist to the domain names ‘Guzzini‘ has been purchasing, many of us have been watching recently as many of Guzzini’s domains have been moving over to a company called ‘SEO Web Recovery‘. And this has been happening mostly ever since the time I was banned from bidding on the Drop.com.au auctions (I was banned in May 2021).

But who is this mysterious new SEO WEB RECOVERY company?

When looking at the public ASIC Records for SEO Web Recovery, we find the following:

It appears a Mr Fawcett is the Director of this new company ‘SEO Web Recovery‘ that was created in June 2021.

It also appears that 100% of the shares of ‘SEO Web Recovery‘ are owned by a company called ‘Third Exhib Pty Ltd‘.

The ‘Third Exhib‘ contact address is PO Box 19, Flinders Lane, Melbourne.

The shares of ‘Third Exhib Pty Ltd‘ appear to be owned by ‘First Exhibition Pty Ltd‘, which appear to ultimately belong to Mr Fawcett when looking at the public ASIC records.

But what can all this possibly mean?

That’s exactly what a bunch of us, who have been looking at the Public WHOIS records over the past few months have been thinking.

Well, when we take a look at the Trellian and ‘Drop.com.au Pty Ltd’ ASIC records and compare them to the above, we find the following:

We can see that Trellian’s Registered Address is an accounting firm called Fawcett & Company. And it appears Mr Warmuz and Trellian’s (and possibly Drop.com.au’s?) accountant is Mr Fawcett.

And Trellian‘s contact address is exactly the same as ‘Third Exhib‘ who owns the shares for ‘SEO Web Recovery, being PO Box 19, Flinders Lane, Melbourne.

Does this mean Trellian‘s (and possibly Drop.com.au’s?) Accounting Firm now suddenly own so many great Australian domain names that they’ve been given or sold from ‘Guzzini‘ over the past few months?

And if so, why do they suddenly own all these domain names and what do they plan on doing with them?

Let’s deviate now for a moment and talk about domain name monetisation, or parking.

DOMAIN PARKING

Apart from domain names being digital assets that you can sell, you can also make large amounts of money out of “parking” them with domain name parking or monetisation companies.

And it just so happens that Mr Warmuz (who owns Trellian and Drop.com.au) owns his very own domain name monetisation/parking company, called Above.com(.)

Here is a screenshot above of their website, and the footer below from the Above.com website:

It appears most, if not all, of the Guzzini and SEO Web Recovery domain names utilise the Above.com domain name monetisation parking platform.

If we perform a WHOIS lookup on one single domain name that ‘SEO Web Recovery‘ owns (that Guzzini used to own, but has now handed over to SEO Web Recovery), as an example: peanut.com.au(,) we can see the nameservers are set to: ns1.above.com and ns2.above.com respectively.

The WHOIS shows Above.com and Yexa.com.au is the controlling Registrar for the domain name.

Yexa.com.au is owned by Mr Warmuz (owner of Trellian and Drop.com.au).

But more interestingly, the WHOIS records also show that Peanut.com.au earns ‘click’ revenue every time someone visits the website and clicks on a link, because it’s parked on the Above.com monetisation platform.

Imagine how many people click these links on this one website per month?

Imagine how many people click ALL the links on ALL the websites owned by Guzzini and SEO Web Recovery every month?

How much revenue does that generate for the owners of these domain names, and the owner of the Above.com platform?

Okay, enough about domain name monetisation for a moment…

Let’s go back to the really big question…

If Mr Fawcett, from FAWCETT & COMPANY CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT now ultimately owns and controls all of these domain names under his SEO WEB RECOVERY company…

WHY IS HE SUDDENLY DROPPING THEM?!?!?!

If he is not dropping them himself, or is not involved at all, is someone deleting them on his behalf?

The domain investor community will list all of the domain names owned by SEO Web Recovery that are suddenly dropping in the comments section below over the coming days.

Story developing.

49 thoughts on “Who are SEO WEB RECOVERY and why are they suddenly dropping their domain names?

  • September 24, 2021 at 6:50 pm
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    ic.com.au is suddenly in CLIENT DELETE

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  • September 24, 2021 at 6:59 pm
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    Here is a number of names dropping on Monday. Looks like these names were put into pendingDelete on Friday just in time for the weekend. The registrant must have their reasons for dropping them especially since they have only owned them for 3 months after they were transferred to them. You can see from the list that it’s quite an number.

    Does Trellian also own other registrars?

    WINZIP.com.au
    IC.com.au
    DMOZ.com.au
    NEWSHOP.COM.AU
    DOTNOW.COM.AU
    SHOPPIE.com.au
    GIRLEE.com.au
    LOVECAN.com.au
    ANYLINKS.com.au
    FRETROOM.com.au
    MYMEMORY.com.au
    BUYPERFUME.com.au
    MENUPRICES.com.au
    OCEANHOTEL.com.au
    PICKUPONLY.com.au
    SEARCHEASY.com.au
    WEIGHTLOST.com.au
    MYTESTINGSITE.com.au
    ALNO.com.au
    MRMO.com.au
    VASX.com.au
    ZILA.com.au
    DROIT.com.au
    FREEO.com.au
    VEMNO.com.au
    BIAGRA.com.au
    CXWAVE.com.au
    ONAPRA.com.au
    SOCLAB.com.au
    CRYPTOE.com.au
    HEMPINC.com.au
    LOTTO24.com.au
    LANLINK.net.au
    LOVECAN.com.au
    WISEDMZ.com.au
    ADOMANIA.com.au
    ALLFONES.com.au
    HANDYMEE.com.au
    KAYKRAFT.com.au
    KONKATSU.com.au
    V8OWNERS.com.au
    ANGELBODY.com.au
    CAMPABOAT.com.au
    DONIMEDIA.com.au
    HIREFIELD.COM.AU
    LEGALEAZE.com.au

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    • September 24, 2021 at 8:08 pm
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      These are some of the registrars that I am pretty sure owned by Trellian

      DROP.com.au Pty Ltd
      Domain Shield Pty Ltd
      Fabulous.com.au Pty Ltd
      NetAlliance Pty Ltd trading as Netfleet.com.au
      Netalliance
      Yexa.com.au Pty Ltd
      ZipHosting

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    • September 25, 2021 at 1:40 pm
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      more added to the shredder

      PROUDBOYS.COM.AU
      TALKFORWEB.com.au
      GALAXYSTORE.com.au
      NAILSGALORE.com.au
      ROUNDBUTTER.com.au
      SHRIMPSCAPE.com.au
      SMARTSTRIDE.com.au
      STARTUPCARS.com.au
      CHEAPCHICKEN.com.au
      CLASSIFIEDME.com.au
      CONNECTSTORE.com.au
      OPERATORJOBS.com.au
      SECURASHIELD.com.au
      FLYINGMACHINE.com.au
      THEPIZZAJOINT.com.au
      DIVINGSERVICES.com.au
      DIGITALINFLUENCE.com.au
      BRIDALCOLLECTIONS.com.au
      MEDIAINTELLIGENCE.com.au
      ABSOLUTELYPOLISHED.com.au
      AUSSIESUBSCRIPTIONS.COM.AU

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      • September 26, 2021 at 10:01 am
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        another screenshot today (Sunday) of digital shredding.

        why are all these domain names being CLIENT DELETED by SEO WEB RECOVERY?

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  • September 24, 2021 at 7:16 pm
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    You’re right, Nobby,

    Legaleaze.com.au as just one example… screenshot right now (Friday night)…

    Placed into CLIENT DELETE, owned by SEO WEB RECOVERY with DROP.COM.AU as the REGISTRAR and ABOVE as the parking monetisation platform.

    All of these domains owned by SEO WEB RECOVERY getting SHREDDED

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  • September 24, 2021 at 8:50 pm
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    another example screenshot from today

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  • September 25, 2021 at 9:28 am
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    Deleting the domain names is a good strategy.

    – If the domain name has a “less than clean” history then the company that owns it can delete it.
    – The domain name will come up auction.
    – The company that owned the domain can put a bid of what they think is the reserved price should be with any (new) company they wish.
    – If they win it back then it means that there was no interest and it is “cleaned” of the previous history.
    – If another domainer considers it valuable then they will put in a higher bid and the domain will make a profit for it’s previous owner.

    Is this “domain laundering”? Or a way to value your domains?

    Hang on, “domain laundering” strategy will only work if the company that runs the auction and the previous owner of the domain are the same (or have a commercial relationship), and the company that runs the auction has a monopoly… whoops

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    • September 25, 2021 at 10:59 am
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      Luckily the registrar must provide details of any changes made by them to registry data. I assume this includes renewals, transfers and any “adjustments” to registrant details. That would make interesting reading. While the domain history may be “cleaned” in the Registry the Registrar’s actions cannot be.

      15.5 Controlled access to Registry Data
      The Registrar must:
      (a) only access or permit its Personnel to access Registry Data and only to the extent
      necessary to comply with the Registrar’s obligations under this Agreement;
      (b) establish and maintain complete, accurate and up-to-date records of Registry Data
      accessed, collected, or changed by it (Data Access Records), which must include
      details of the Registrar’s Personnel who accessed, collected or changed the
      Registry Data and the date it was accessed, collected or changed; and
      (c) at auDA’s request, immediately provide auDA with copies of the Data Access
      Records.

      15.7 Event of Default
      Failure by the Registrar to comply with any obligation under this clause 15 is an Event of
      Default under this Agreement.

      auDA has no choice to act according to the Registrar Agreement.

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      • September 26, 2021 at 10:18 am
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        This is a rather naive assumption. Are you being ironic or tongue-in-cheek?

        From what I’ve experienced auDA (and the registrars) do not always do the right thing, and from what I can see there are no repercussions.

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        • September 26, 2021 at 12:48 pm
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          Naive maybe.

          The reason I posted all the names above is to publicly display the information. Anyone can access the whois data and see the name of the registrant and the fact that the registrant has requested the names to be deleted. The reasons for it is known only to them.

          At a minimum auDA should investigate the matter. Repercussions? Apparently they are laid out in the relevant legal contractual documents. Will they be applied and how are they interpreted? Who knows. Does it reflect on the integrity of the au namespace? You decide.

          auDA
          “We recognise the critical importance of our role and the work we do, and we hold ourselves to high standards of corporate governance and integrity.”

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          • September 26, 2021 at 1:05 pm
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            auda wont investigate anything

            the dept of comms needs to investigate this whole thing and auda too while their at it

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              • September 26, 2021 at 1:34 pm
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                what reform, haven’t we gone backwards?

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  • September 25, 2021 at 9:48 am
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    Drop a name like ic.com.au or peanuts.com.au and they all get paid. auDA. afilias. DROP. rinse. repeat.

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    • September 26, 2021 at 1:07 pm
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      Is this a case of not getting any interest with them parked so might as well throw them back into the drop auctions and make money on them that way????

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      • September 26, 2021 at 1:12 pm
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        Great question!

        There are many great questions being raised over the past few days.

        It’s now time for auDA, DOCA and the appropriate government authorities to perform their thorough investigations so not only the domain investor or entrepreneur communities, but the entire Australian business community, can understand what is regularly happening to our Australian domain names, that the Australian government deem as Critical Infrastructure.

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  • September 26, 2021 at 12:45 pm
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    Who even understands this at auDA?

    They will cover it up because it shows how easy it is to do. That risks their salaries and KPI bonuses they’ve been paying themselves.

    Only court action would see anything possibly done.

    Why would auDA take this to court and risk more exposure or another public loss.

    Cover Up
    Cover Up
    Delete
    Delete

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  • September 26, 2021 at 1:48 pm
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    A concerned business person just emailed us here at Domainer with this information.

    The domain:

    ic.com.au

    was owned by Guzzini in June 2021
    (screenshot)

    today, is owned by SEO WEB RECOVERY (Sept 26, 2021), but is in CLIENT DELETE by its current owner
    (screenshot)

    and is listed on tomorrow’s DROP.com.au auction with a bid already for $10,000
    (screenshot)

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    • September 26, 2021 at 3:12 pm
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      I think IC.com.au will go for $20,000 tomorrow.

      Hope someone reports on this.

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  • September 26, 2021 at 1:58 pm
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    is the bid even real, or is this a shill bid by the auction platform itself?

    and if it’s real, was a shill bid at $5000 placed to cause someone else to be forced to jump to $10,000?

    is anyone regulating this?

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    • September 26, 2021 at 2:11 pm
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      Good questions.

      Who knows?

      What’s worse is, auDA aren’t allowing any competition, so there’s not even a competitor drop catcher to attest there are real bidders trying to buy this domain name.

      There’s NO REGULATION by auDA or anyone else looking at what Drop.com.au are doing behind their monopoly curtain.

      And of course, we still don’t know how or why Guzzini gave or sold this domain name to SEO WEB RECOVERY and we still don’t know why SEO WEB RECOVERY have decided to drop this valuable domain name FOR FREE as a CLIENT DELETE.

      What we DO know is, DROP are about to make at least around $10,000 profit with this domain name tomorrow.

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      • September 26, 2021 at 2:31 pm
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        You’re not allowed to discuss domain name pricing at drop or they ban you.

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    • September 26, 2021 at 3:47 pm
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      The bid is real, they always are. Seasoned domain investors (and there are many) know that the bids on .com.au names on Drop are wholesale. Very standard bid at present. Retail value of IC.com.au is between $30,000 and $100,000.

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      • September 26, 2021 at 3:56 pm
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        Perhaps this particular bid IS real, “Mark”?

        But who knows if they ALL are real. No one knows. No one has been watching since DROP bought NETFLEET last November and the monopoly was created. I guess that was the whole point?

        I speak to you on the phone all the time, (using your real name) and respect your opinion and experience as a “seasoned domain investor”, but it’s time you few ‘Melbourne mates’ stopped ‘looking after each other’ now, isn’t it.

        The questions raised here over the past few days WILL BE INVESTIGATED AND ANSWERED.

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      • September 26, 2021 at 4:09 pm
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        If the retail value is between 30k & 100k why would the owner decide to delete the domain name? They only transferred it to themselves in the last few months and how much did it cost them in the first place? It seems very strange to me.

        This is a client initiated delete not an action of auDA as otherwise it would be in 14 days pending delete.

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      • September 26, 2021 at 5:23 pm
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        “the bid is real, they always are” verified by who?

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  • September 26, 2021 at 3:02 pm
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    A few more being deleted. The Registrar for these domains is Yexa.com.au. I assume that Yexa handled the COR to SEO WEB RECOVERY

    KANGAL.com.au
    JOBSFORSTUDENTS.com.au
    MOTELSONLINE.com.au
    LIFESTYLEGUIDE.com.au

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    • September 26, 2021 at 3:18 pm
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      YEXA.com.au PTY LTD

      Director and Secretary is David Warmuz

      Shares are owned by HELP.com.au PTY LTD

      Contact Address is exactly the same as TRELLIAN and THIRD EXHIB PTY LTD (who own all the shares for SEO WEB RECOVERY).

      Screenshot below of the relevant sections of the public ASIC record and the WHOIS today.

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  • September 27, 2021 at 11:20 am
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    IC.com.au has now been registered through Domain Shield for $10,000. As the registrant contact is Anthony Peake he will get the email to approve transfer to Drop. This information is publicly available through the whois data.

    Domain Name: IC.COM.AU
    Registry Domain ID: D407400000108131907-AU
    Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.auda.org.au
    Registrar URL:
    Last Modified:
    Registrar Name: Domain Shield Pty Ltd
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone:
    Reseller Name:
    Status: inactive https://afilias.com.au/get-au/whois-status-codes#inactive
    Status: serverRenewProhibited https://afilias.com.au/get-au/whois-status-codes#serverRenewProhibited
    Status Reason: Not Currently Eligible For Renewal
    Status: addPeriod https://afilias.com.au/get-au/whois-status-codes#addPeriod
    Registrant Contact ID: DS1
    Registrant Contact Name: Drop Manager
    Registrant Contact Email: [email protected]
    Tech Contact ID: DS1
    Tech Contact Name: Drop Manager
    Tech Contact Email: [email protected]
    Name Server:
    DNSSEC: unsigned
    Registrant: NHC ADVISORS PTY LTD
    Registrant ID: ACN 126755468
    Eligibility Type: Company

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  • September 27, 2021 at 12:00 pm
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    30 minutes later transfer has been approved.

    Domain Name: IC.COM.AU
    Registry Domain ID: D407400000108131907-AU
    Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.auda.org.au
    Registrar URL:
    Last Modified:
    Registrar Name: DROP.com.au Pty Ltd
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone:
    Reseller Name:
    Status: inactive https://afilias.com.au/get-au/whois-status-codes#inactive
    Status: serverRenewProhibited https://afilias.com.au/get-au/whois-status-codes#serverRenewProhibited
    Status Reason: Not Currently Eligible For Renewal
    Status: transferPeriod https://afilias.com.au/get-au/whois-status-codes#transferPeriod
    Registrant Contact ID: DS1
    Registrant Contact Name: Drop Manager
    Registrant Contact Email: [email protected]
    Tech Contact ID: DS1
    Tech Contact Name: Drop Manager
    Tech Contact Email: [email protected]
    Name Server:
    DNSSEC: unsigned
    Registrant: NHC ADVISORS PTY LTD
    Registrant ID: ACN 126755468
    Eligibility Type: Company

    >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2021-09-27T03:53:47Z <<<

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    • September 28, 2021 at 8:26 am
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      DS1 is the holding contact IDs that Drop uses while doing the drops. As soon as the new owner pays the invoice the contact IDs will change.

      Looks like a domain was won by a legitimate domain investor making a legitimate bid?

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      • September 28, 2021 at 10:02 am
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        Yes, a legitimate Australian company paid $10k for the ic.com.au domain yesterday. DROP makes $9991.33 profit, once the invoice is paid.

        The buyer had very little bidding options though. They would have found $5k was locked out, so the platform forced them to double that bid to $10k if they wanted the domain. We will never know if the bid at $5k was real or not. That information is never shared and no one is regulating or looking into the drop auction processes.

        The question still remains though why did SEO WEB RECOVERY ‘client delete’ such a valuable and rare two-letter domain for FREE?

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      • September 28, 2021 at 12:35 pm
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        Isn’t using their own contact details as the registrant against policy? It also gives them control over the domain. They are not the registrant. Is this another example of “bending the rules”? They have now changed the contact email to [email protected].

        What happens if the new owner doesn’t pay? Who owns the name? Who authorises the cancellation of the name for non payment?

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        • September 29, 2021 at 9:22 am
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          If the winning bidder doesn’t pay, at least in ONE example (with MCG.com.au), Drop.com.au simply changed the Registrant owner to ‘Guzzini’. This is a fact. This actually happened.

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          • September 29, 2021 at 9:29 am
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            If this is true, (i believe you Robert) what good are AUDA if they don’t even know this kind of behaviour is happening?

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  • September 27, 2021 at 5:43 pm
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    A couple of snippets from the Registrar agreements.

    MUST NOT be the Registrar of record or their sub-contractor

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  • September 28, 2021 at 10:34 am
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    i miss nikki from netfleet. at least she was watching what was happening. remember when she questioned the land.com.au fiasco?

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  • September 29, 2021 at 9:20 am
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    Very recently, (looks like the past few days) these domains have moved from Guzzini over to SEO WEB RECOVERY

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  • September 29, 2021 at 9:26 am
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    why the hell did guzzini own juliospizza.com.au ???????????

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    • September 29, 2021 at 9:35 am
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      Good question!

      But let’s expand on that…

      Why did Guzzini just give this domain to SEO WEB RECOVERY?

      And why does an accountant (who owns the shares of SEO WEB RECOVERY) now own JuliosPizza.com.au ?

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  • September 29, 2021 at 12:00 pm
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    I would say I agree with 90% + of the conversation on here, but one thing should be pointed out; it is standard practice for accountants to chuck their postal details on their client’s accounts. My accountant does it to me all the time and it bugs me no end that I have to change it back. The (QLD) business I work for has their post going to the (VIC) accountant too.

    It does show that all these entities have a common link, and are highly likely to have common controlling interests, but it does NOT show that the accountant themselves owns anything. The accountant is just dealing with the books for a bunch of related entities.

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    • September 29, 2021 at 1:56 pm
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      Hi Jewlzzz,

      We’re not talking about postage here, we’re talking about the ‘Registrant’ of the domain names.

      I know this stuff can be pretty complicated, but in laymans terms…

      The ‘Registrant’ of the domains in question is SEO WEB RECOVERY.

      The ultimate person who owns the shares of SEO WEB RECOVERY is MR FAWCETT (through the different companies listed above).

      MR FAWCETT also appears to be TRELLIAN’s ACCOUNTANT and possibly the Drop.com.au accountant as well.

      Guzzini Pty Ltd is a company of which the directors and shareholders appear to be relatives of Mr Warmuz, the owner of Australia’s one and only daily domain name drop catching platform, Drop.com.au and also Trellian.

      GUZZINI gave a bunch of domain names to SEO WEB RECOVERY.

      Our question is WHY?

      And WHY are many of the domains being CLIENT DELETED now?

      Hope that explains things in a simpler way.

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  • October 3, 2021 at 11:42 am
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    Why is SEO WEB RECOVERY letting the valuable domain name Cockroach.com.au client delete for FREE tomorrow?

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  • October 4, 2021 at 8:01 am
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    i found lighters.net.au and cakes.net.au dropping by seo web recovery today. please add my screenshots below.

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  • October 4, 2021 at 8:20 am
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    More domains that SEO WEB RECOVERY and GUZZINI have been involved in moving over the past 7 days.

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  • October 10, 2021 at 12:24 pm
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    More domains that SEO WEB RECOVERY and GUZZINI have been involved in moving over the past 7 days.

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  • October 11, 2021 at 7:57 pm
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    More domains that SEO WEB RECOVERY and GUZZINI have been involved in moving over the past few days.

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